Where Simulated Instrument Time Counts
Four places in the regulations ask for instrument time, and all four accept time flown under a view-limiting device.
Where Simulated Instrument Time Counts
| Certificate Or Rule |
What It Asks For |
Simulator Credit |
Regulation |
| Private pilot, airplane single-engine |
3 hours of flight training solely by reference to instruments: straight and level, constant-airspeed climbs and descents, turns to a heading, unusual-attitude recovery, radio, navigation and radar services |
61.109(k) names full flight simulators and flight training devices, not aviation training devices; see our simulator hours page |
14 CFR 61.109(a)(3) |
| Instrument rating, airplane |
40 hours of actual or simulated instrument time, 15 of them from an instructor with an instrument-airplane rating |
Up to 10 hours in a basic ATD or 20 in an advanced ATD; 20 hours combined for all devices |
14 CFR 61.65(d)(2), (i), (j) |
| Commercial pilot, airplane single-engine |
10 hours of instrument training using a view-limiting device, including attitude instrument flying, partial panel and unusual-attitude recovery; 5 of the 10 in a single-engine airplane |
See our simulator hours page |
14 CFR 61.129(a)(3)(i) |
| Instrument currency |
Six approaches, holding procedures and tasks, and intercepting and tracking courses in the 6 calendar months before the month of the flight |
A full flight simulator, FTD or ATD may be used, alone or combined with the aircraft |
14 CFR 61.57(c)(1)–(2) |
For a student pilot, the first row is the one that matters. Your instructor decides where the 3 hours fit into the course. If you have not started yet, the private begins with a two-hour first lesson for $349, and our private pilot license requirements page lists the rest of 61.109.
The second row is the big one. The instrument rating requirements set the 40 hours, and our instrument rating course is built around them at $11,700. That buys 20 hours in the airplane, 20 in the Redbird MCX, 40 hours of dual and 10 of ground, with $2,500 down and four payments of $2,300.
Commercial students meet the third row later; the commercial pilot license requirements page has the full list. For device credit certificate by certificate, see simulator hours that count.
The fourth row never goes away. Once you hold the rating, 61.57(c) asks for six approaches, holding procedures and course tracking every six calendar months. Paragraph (c)(1) says in plain words that you may fly them using a view-limiting device.
An instructor can lay out where your hood time should go, in the airplane or in the Redbird MCX, against your own schedule. Book a free consultation, or call (818) 330-1318, seven days a week from 9 AM to 9 PM.
Choosing A Pair
You will need your own pair sooner or later. Under 14 CFR 61.45(d)(2), the applicant for a practical test that involves flying solely by reference to instruments has to furnish the device. The private checkride includes basic instrument maneuvers, so the rule reaches further than the instrument checkride. You do not have to buy a pair to start hood work, because You Fly LA provides foggles free to use on lessons.
Start with fit. If you fly in prescription glasses, try foggles on over them before you buy, because some styles push your frames into the bridge of your nose. Then check the view in a cockpit, not a shop mirror. With your head level, the frosting should cut off the windshield and the clear band should show the whole panel, bottom row included.
Comfort matters more than it seems at the counter. The arms sit under your headset's ear cups for long stretches, and thin flat arms press less and spoil the seal less. If you are still choosing a headset, our pilot headsets guide covers that side.
We do not rank brands. Any pair that fits, with the frosting and the clear band in the right places, does the job. Try them with your headset before the lesson, not in the run-up area with the engine running.
Questions About Foggles
Can I Wear Foggles And Log The Time When Flying Alone?
No. 14 CFR 91.109(c) applies to every civil aircraft in simulated instrument flight, not only to training flights, so an instrument-rated pilot practicing alone is bound by it too. Without a qualified safety pilot in the other control seat, the flight itself breaks the rule.
Who Can Be My Safety Pilot?
Any pilot with at least a private pilot certificate carrying the category and class ratings for the airplane, and with adequate vision forward and to each side. The rule in 91.109(c)(1) does not ask the safety pilot to hold an instrument rating or an instructor certificate.
How Much Hood Time Does A Private Pilot Need?
Three hours, under 14 CFR 61.109(a)(3), flown as flight training with an authorized instructor. The checkride tests the same skills in Area VIII of the Private Pilot ACS, Basic Instrument Maneuvers, from straight-and-level flight to recovery from unusual flight attitudes.
Does Simulator Time Count Instead Of Foggles Time?
Toward the instrument rating, up to a limit: 20 hours in an advanced aviation training device such as the Redbird MCX, or 10 in a basic one. For currency the rule is simpler. Under 61.51(g)(5), device time meets the recency requirement as long as a logbook or training record names the device, the time and the content.
Do I Need To Buy Foggles For My Lessons?
No. You Fly LA provides foggles free to use on lessons, so you can fly with a pair in the airplane before you buy your own for the checkride.
Do I Need My Own Foggles For The Checkride?
Yes, under 61.45(d)(2). Appendix 3 of the Instrument Rating ACS (FAA-S-ACS-8C) adds that the device must not restrict the evaluator's ability to see and avoid other traffic. It does not apply to elements of a task that need visual references, and you and the evaluator should agree on when it goes on and comes off.
Does Foggles Time Keep Me Instrument Current?
Yes, with a safety pilot aboard. Let it lapse, though, and the clock matters: if you go more than six calendar months without meeting the 61.57(c) requirements, 61.57(d) says the only way back is an instrument proficiency check.