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Choosing Your Airplane For A First Lesson

Four airplanes are open to you for a first lesson at Van Nuys. The $349 lesson puts you in a Cessna 162 Skycatcher or a Piper Warrior, the $549 lesson in a Diamond DA20-C1 and the $749 lesson in our Cirrus SR22 Turbo. For most first-timers we would pick the Skycatcher. With some stick time already, take the DA20.

$349Cessna 162 or Piper Warrior
$449Warrior, with a guest in the back
$549Diamond DA20-C1
$749Cirrus SR22 Turbo N422SN
A row of You Fly LA's Cessna 162 Skycatchers lined up at Van Nuys

They do not fly alike, and the differences that matter on day one are not the ones the spec sheets argue about. Our beginner flying lessons page covers the two hours themselves. What follows is only about which airplane you climb into, written by people who teach in all four.

The Four Airplanes You Can Book

At $349 you get a Skycatcher or a Warrior, and which one depends on what is free that morning. We run six Skycatchers against two Warriors, so the arithmetic usually points at a Skycatcher. The other three rungs you choose by name.

Cessna 162 Skycatcher

Cessna 162 Skycatcher

Six of them: N60225, N7030B, N6039M, N179LC, N5208V and N52049. Each has 100 hp, cruises at 118 knots and puts Garmin G300 glass in front of two seats under a high wing. One of the two airplanes on the $349 lesson.

Piper Warrior

Piper Warrior

Two of them, N3034Q and N6312C, both PA-28-161s. 160 hp, about 128 knots, IFR-equipped, with four seats and a low wing. $349 on its own, or $449 with a guest in the back.

Diamond DA20-C1

Diamond DA20-C1

N306EF or N308EF, booked by name at $549. 125 hp and a Garmin 430, with two seats, a stick instead of a yoke and a bubble canopy over a low wing.

Cirrus SR22 Turbo

Cirrus SR22 Turbo

N422SN, the only one we have, at $749. 310 turbocharged horsepower, 215 knots, Cirrus Perspective glass, a side-stick and the CAPS parachute for the whole airframe.

High Wing Or Low Wing, And What You Can See

The Skycatcher's wing sits above your head. The Warrior's and the DA20's sit below your hip. That single difference changes more about your first hour than horsepower does.

Over a high wing you can see the ground. Roll into a turn in the Skycatcher and the reference you picked stays in the window the whole way around. A low wing trades that for the sky above you, which is where the other airplanes are.

The DA20 refuses the trade. The canopy is a bubble, the wing is low and thin, and you sit with your shoulders above the wing line. It is the best view of the four, and the first thing students mention after they land.

The Cirrus comes last, and not because the glass is bad. The panel in N422SN is more interesting than the window, and on a first lesson that is a cost.

A Yoke Or A Stick

The Skycatcher and the Warrior give you a yoke. The DA20 gives you a stick between your knees, and N422SN has a side-stick.

Nobody has struggled with a first lesson over which one it was. What changes is how much of your arm is in the job. A yoke is shoulders and forearms; a stick is wrist and fingertips, and small inputs are easier to make and therefore easier to overdo.

We think the stick shows you your own mistakes sooner. For some people that is worth $549.

Two Seats Or Four, And Who Can Ride

The Skycatcher and the DA20 seat two. You and your instructor fill them, whatever was promised to anybody at dinner.

The Warrior has four, which is what the $449 lesson is for. You fly from the left seat, your guest sits in the back on the intercom, and nothing else about the lesson changes. The guest is not charged separately and has nothing to do.

Partners and parents in the back row change the day more than people expect. Some students fly better watched; a few fly worse.

The Cirrus has four seats too, but the $749 lesson takes no guest. If somebody is coming along, the Warrior on the $449 lesson is the only seat for them.

What Each One Forgives, And What It Punishes

The Skycatcher forgives a heavy hand and a late foot. A hundred horsepower sounds like a shortage until you realize it is why the airplane never gets away from you. It punishes a hot, bumpy afternoon over the practice area, because a light airplane moves in the bumps and your first instinct will be to fight it.

The Warrior forgives nearly everything. Sixty more horsepower and a bigger airframe make it steady, and dull in the best sense of the word. It saves its opinions for the landing: most students float the Warrior on the first ten landings of their training, and on 8,001 feet of runway nothing comes of it.

The DA20 forgives less and teaches faster. It is lighter on the controls than the Skycatcher, it is certified in the utility category, and it notices when your feet stop working. It punishes the float the Warrior tolerates.

The Cirrus forgives the weather and punishes your attention. At 215 knots N422SN covers ground about twice as fast as a Skycatcher, so everything on your first lesson happens sooner and closer together. The parachute and the Perspective panel are reassuring, and there is also a great deal more to look at.

Which One We Would Put You In

The Skycatcher on the $349 lesson, if this is your first time in a small airplane. We will defend that.

You can see the ground, which is where your horizon and your references live. A hundred horsepower is slow enough to think in. The Garmin G300 glass is the same kind of panel you would fly behind through the certificate, so nothing you learn in the first hour gets unlearned. There are six of them, so the 9 AM slot you wanted is usually the slot you get.

Take the DA20 instead if you have some stick time already, or if you know you want the certificate. About seventy minutes of flying will tell you whether a stick suits your hands.

The Warrior is the answer if somebody is coming with you, or if the Skycatchers are booked.

Take the Cirrus if you came for N422SN rather than for the lesson. We will not talk you out of it, but about seventy minutes in a remarkable airplane is not the same purchase as the most efficient first lesson money buys here.

If weather or nerves are deciding this for you, the $249 lesson in the full-motion simulator never gets cancelled for weather.

Weight Limits For Each Airplane

The limits run the opposite way to the prices. The two airplanes on the $349 lesson are the tighter ones.

Weight Limits On The Beginner Lessons
Lesson Price Weight limit
Cessna 162 Skycatcher $349 180 lb per person
Piper Warrior $349 180 lb per person
Piper Warrior with a guest $449 180 lb per person, 360 lb combined
Diamond DA20-C1 $549 200 lb for the person flying
Cirrus SR22 Turbo $749 200 lb for the person flying
Redbird MCX simulator $249 No limit

If you are close to a number, call (818) 330-1318 and talk it through with the office before you book.

Pick Your Lesson

Choose Your Lesson And Book It

Four airplanes and the full-motion simulator, each a flat price for one two-hour booking. Nothing is added at the desk.

Cessna 162 Skycatcher trainer seen nose first on the Van Nuys ramp at sunset
CESSNA 162 · OR PIPER WARRIOR
Day One 2 Hours

Two-Hour Beginner Flying Lesson

Credited in full toward your training if you enroll within 24 hours.

Half an hour on the ground learning what the yoke, the pedals and the throttle do, then about seventy minutes in the air over Simi Valley with your instructor beside you.

  • 30-minute ground lesson first
  • About 70 minutes at the controls
  • Simi Valley and the Santa Susana Mountains
  • Cessna 162 or Piper Warrior
  • Debrief and a signed logbook entry

Lesson Length

$349all-in · one student · 2 hours

Book The Lesson

Weight limit 180 lb for the person flying.

Or gift it →
Side view of Piper Warrior N6312C on a sunny ramp, cabin and cowling in view
PIPER WARRIOR PA-28-161 · GUEST SEAT
Bring Someone 2 Hours

Two-Hour Beginner Flying Lesson For Two

One of you takes the lesson. The other rides along on the intercom.

The same two hours in the four-seat Piper Warrior, with somebody you know in the back. They sit in on the ground lesson, listen in the air and take the photographs.

  • Four-seat Piper Warrior
  • A guest in the back seat
  • Headsets for both of you
  • 30-minute ground lesson first
  • About 70 minutes at the controls

Lesson Length

$449all-in · student and guest · 2 hours

Book For Two

Weight limits 180 lb each and 360 lb combined.

Or gift it →
Diamond DA20 with its bubble canopy raised, showing the side-by-side cockpit
DIAMOND DA20-C1 · 125 HP · STICK
The Stick 2 Hours

Two-Hour Beginner Flying Lesson In The Diamond DA20

A stick instead of a yoke, and a canopy you can see straight out of.

Lighter on the controls than the Cessna, and quicker to show you when your feet are lazy on the rudder. A good first lesson if you already think you want the certificate.

  • Diamond DA20-C1, two seats
  • Stick and bubble canopy
  • 125 hp Continental IO-240
  • 30-minute ground lesson first
  • About 70 minutes at the controls

Lesson Length

$549all-in · one student · 2 hours

Book The DA20

Weight limit 200 lb for the person flying.

Or gift it →
Cirrus SR22 Turbo with its gull-wing door open on the ramp at Van Nuys+ Luxury
CIRRUS SR22 TURBO · N422SN · 310 HP
+ Luxury 2 Hours

Two-Hour Beginner Flying Lesson In The Cirrus SR22 Turbo

Turbocharged, all glass, and fitted with a whole-airframe parachute.

Not the sensible first lesson, and most people do not start here. The ones who do usually know they will finish the certificate and want to begin in the airplane they will fly afterwards.

  • Cirrus SR22 Turbo N422SN
  • Cirrus Perspective glass panel
  • CAPS whole-airframe parachute
  • Side-stick and 310 hp
  • About 70 minutes at the controls

Lesson Length

$749all-in · one student · 2 hours

Book The Cirrus

Weight limit 200 lb for the person flying. No guest seat on this lesson.

Or gift it →
A student at the controls of the Redbird MCX full-motion simulator at You Fly LA
REDBIRD MCX · FAA-APPROVED AATD
No Weather Call 2 Hours

Two-Hour Beginner Simulator Lesson

An FAA-approved AATD, so the time is loggable.

The same two-hour lesson, flown in the full-motion Redbird MCX instead of an airplane. Book it if the weather looks unsettled, if you would rather start on the ground, or if $249 is the number that works.

  • Redbird MCX on full motion
  • 30-minute ground lesson first
  • About 70 minutes flying the maneuvers
  • Never canceled for weather
  • No weight limit
  • Up to 50 hours count toward a commercial certificate

Lesson Length

$249all-in · one student · 2 hours

Book The Simulator Lesson

No weight limit. You accept the weather and cancellation policy before you book.

Or gift it →

Questions About Picking An Airplane

Can I Choose Which Airplane I Fly?

On the $449, $549 and $749 lessons you are booking a named airplane. On the $349 lesson you are booking a Skycatcher or a Warrior and you take whichever is free. The gap between the rungs follows our pay-as-you-go rates, which include fuel: $269 an hour for the Skycatcher and the Warrior, $329 for the DA20, $649 for the Cirrus.

Is The Diamond DA20 Harder To Fly Than The Cessna 162?

Not harder. Less tolerant. It is the airplane we use for the $2,000 spin training course that CFI candidates need under 14 CFR 61.183(i), which tells you something about how precisely it wants to be flown.

Can My Partner Ride In The Back?

In the Warrior, on the $449 lesson, yes. They get a headset and the intercom. Nobody in the back seat needs flying experience or a medical certificate.

Which Airplane Do Students Keep Flying After The First Lesson?

Mostly the Skycatcher and the Warrior, because inside a course package they are $179 an hour and the DA20 is $229. That $50 an hour is the real cost of choosing the Diamond, and it is worth doing the sum against a Private Pilot Standard package at $10,400 before you commit.

Do I Need Experience To Book The Cirrus?

None. The $749 lesson takes complete beginners. The same airplane carries our $1,799 high-performance endorsement and the $23,400 Turbo Cirrus private pilot course, so $749 is a cheap look at a machine other people build whole programs around.

Book The One You Want

Pick an airplane and we will have it on the ramp, fueled, with an instructor beside it. We are at 7900 Balboa Blvd, Main Terminal Unit 108, on the field at Van Nuys, with lessons 9 AM to 5 PM every day.